I need your help (Golden WAMiversary Series)

2014 marks the 50th anniversary of a TV show called “Not Only… But Also” (not to be confused with the album by The 88), the show that first gave the world gunge. NOBA (because I know WAMmers love abbreviations) was a comedy show hosted by Peter Cooke and Dudley Moore and had a segment called Poets Cornered, where guests would recite poetry while avoiding being dunked in a vat of BBC Gunge. Since then, gunge has shown up in… You know what, you’re on a WAM site. You don’t need me to talk about how many TV shows have people getting covered in slimy muck as a major fixture. I also probably don’t need to say how many of us have been influenced by said TV shows to write our own messy stories.

With that in mind, I’m planning a series of stories in the Suziverse which have some of my characters. I’ll have ones that exist already, ones I’ve got planned to debut in upcoming stories, and some entirely new characters. I’ll be calling it the Golden WAMiversary Series. The stories will be about the characters making one-off episodes of various old messy TV shows, including:

Shows are listed roughly in the order they were first broadcast in their native land, with additional shows that weren’t in the original list in italics. Shows I will definitely be using are in bold.

  • Not Only… But Also
  • TISWAS
  • Crackerjack
  • How Dare You?
  • You Can’t Do That On Television
  • Takeshi’s Castle
  • What Now?
  • Uh-Oh!
  • Slime Time Live
  • Double Dare
  • What Would You Do?
  • Fun House
  • Noel’s House Party
  • Live and Kicking
  • Run the Risk
  • Get Your Own Back
  • Figure It Out
  • Insides Out
  • Pump It Up
  • Twister
  • Dick ‘n’ Dom In Da Bungalow
  • Toonattik
  • Ministry of Mayhem
  • [Total] Wipeout
  • Basil’s Swap Shop
  • Keep Your Enemies Close
  • Esto es Guerra
  • Culo Veo, Culo Queiro

So what do I need help with? Well, there are four things:

  1. I know my list of shows is far from complete so I’m taking suggestions for shows I could use.
  2. I’ve not decided how many of my currently existing characters will be used either, though I can assure you all that most of the major ones (Suzi, Nicki, the Kayotics etc.) will show up at some point. Many of my characters haven’t showed up more than once (like almost all of the SSD civilian gungees), and I’m more than certain there’s potential for them. The question is, which ones would be the best ones to bring back?
  3. I’ve not decided who’s going on which shows either, though I have ideas.
  4. I’m also taking ideas for character types for the new characters I’m hoping to use.

Thanks for reading! =)

About VanillaXSlime

So I'm a WAM author (Suzi's Slop Drop, The Kayotics, The A-Z of Gunge II, Goo Your Own Way, miscellaneous other stuff), the administrator of https://tellygunge.wordpress.com, a fan of metal, punk and gothic music, an occasional cosplayer and bassist. Twitter: https://twitter.com/VanillaXSlime ECG: http://www.ecgunge.net/forums/index.php?showuser=10391 UMD: http://umd.net/profile/vanillaxslime
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24 Responses to I need your help (Golden WAMiversary Series)

  1. jfsredhead says:

    idea sounds good look foward to storys from the shows figure it out double dare and you cant do that on televison

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  2. TellyGunge says:

    Crackerjack and How Dare You?

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    • Added those to the list, along with some suggestions from WAFL and a few shows I’ve thought of since. However, I will prune the list a bit later on. There’s a lot out there, so doing them all would be maddening.

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  3. MCPridz says:

    What about Stwnsh Sadwrn

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  4. As good as TV Tropes is, it’s not exhaustive. As for Stwnsh, I did recently introduce a Welsh character…

    Good calls.

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  5. trouso says:

    Great idea. Looking forward to it. For the list, there’s “Noel’s Saturday Roadshow” (1988-9) which preceded NHP. This show introduced the gunge tank as part of a game called “In Other Words”.

    Also, I’m intrigued by a show from the early ’70s called “Junkin” starring John Junkin (comedy actor and writer) which was shown on Southern Television (ITV) UK. I’ve heard a few very interesting recollections from people who saw the show at the time – involving women, pies and custard baths, some slightly more believable than others, let’s say. But from what I can find out from JK’s obituaries, the show certainly existed.

    This is as much as I can establish as ‘true’ (from the Daily Telegraph obituary 2006):

    “Despite being panned by the critics for indulging in “holiday camp humour”, Junkin was successful with audiences and ran for four years. The show, which played to an all-women studio audience, typically featured women being dipped in batter, balancing pancakes on their heads and dissolving into uncontrolled hysterics.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1512356/John-Junkin.html

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1702150/

    Does anyone remember this show?

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    • yuck53 says:

      Wow, that sounds like our sort of show. The only thing I could see going wrong is that “all-woman” should be “all-girl” and they’re all minors.

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      • trouso says:

        As far as I can discover it was definitely a show for and featuring grown ups. The audience consisted mainly of – what would have then been called – ‘housewives’ and they would also have been the intended audience for the show’. The problem, I think, is that almost nobody had a home video at that time. It was still fairly routine to erase costly programme tapes to enable the recording of new ones. None but the most important TV programmes were ever archived. Out of interest, this was the ‘anecdote’ that got me curious. Make of it what you will:
        “Junkin” was on ITV (hosted by John Junkin) and there always was a lady volunteer from the audience who got tricked into getting very messy, fully clothed in baths of custard and the like. One “trick” I remember was Junkin asked for a pretty volunteer for a “photoshoot”, and stipulated someone with a nice smile. When the lady arrived on stage he said “just remember to keep smiling!” She was then subjected to all manner of messy things poured in her dress and finally made to wallow in a tin bath filled with custard – all the time being told “keep smiling”

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    • Sadly, I have problems remembering shows that ended 26 years before my birth. It’s a horrid weakness, I know. 😉 That said, if more information surfaces, I’ll definitely add it to the list. As for Saturday Roadshow, I was thinking of mixing some of it in with NHP.

      I’ll probably do that with a few shows, actually. Doing a load of gameshows one after another could get quite repetitive, and some of those other shows only had notable elements rather than being well-known and loved as a whole.

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    • Max Odrive says:

      No, but there’s this story (real?) about it over on ECgunge

      http://www.ecgunge.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8264

      One wonders why anybody applied to be in the audience….

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      • Someone’s own mother inspiring a WAM fetish? I’m not sure if I want that story to be real or not! On the one hand, it would be a decent reference point but on the other… >_<;

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        • trouso says:

          I saw that story. The ‘mother’ thing’s perhaps a bit wierd (certainly from the writer’s point of view). I would guess that one’s made up (I think in 1970 they would’ve stop short of such gratuitous underwear filling!) but suggests clearly that they’d seen the show and that that’s just the sort of thing that would happen.

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    • Max Odrive says:

      Done some more digging. It started in 1971 and the concept behind the show was letting women do something they always wanted to do (and, presumably, God help those to whom it was done). And some clips *do* survive, although I wouldn’t count on getting to see them any time soon – http://wipednews.com/features/raymond-of-the-lost-archive/raymond-of-the-lost-archive-14/

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      • trouso says:

        Thanks, Max Odrive. Good work (I missed that one). As you’ve probably found, even textual descriptions are pretty thin on the ground and there’s a lot of duplication.

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        • yuck53 says:

          It’s still surprising we hear so little of this. It’s old but also the same period as TISWAS and we have almost all heard of that and have a fair few clips from it. I suppose it just shows the diverse way TV worked and was spread in those days.

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          • TellyGunge says:

            I know. It’s surprising that so little is said about this show in the WAM community. It almost sounds too good to be true!

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            • trouso says:

              I’m of the Tiswas generation, but I’d heard nothing about Junkin’s show until only last year, although at the same time it doesn’t surprise me that it’s so little known.

              The thing you have to remember about UK regional commercial television stations at that time is that they were divided into strict regions which broadcast all the national ITV output for that region on a single channel. Each region produced it’s own programmes and had many millions of viewers, thus advertising revenue was proportionately pretty high. Many programmes were broadcast nationally, but very many of them were ONLY shown in the region they were made. In fact, Tiswas began exclusively on ATV (Birmingham) as an ‘experiment’ and ran regionally from 1974-77 before it was shown nationally. Accordingly, because of ‘erasing’ policies to re-use valuable tapes, virtually no material from the period exists (bar people’s reminiscences and a miniscule number of rare home recordings that surfaced later). The Tiswas clips you see on Youtube are generally from the 78-82 period when archiving began proper.

              Suffice to say, Junkin, was one such regional programme. It does all sound a little too perfect. Because it’s lost we want it. It probably was just as good as it sounds and nowhere near as good – both at the same time.

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              • yuck53 says:

                “It probably was just as good as it sounds and nowhere near as good – both at the same time.”

                Ah, a not altogether uncommon experience with gunge clips. Although in this case it’s particularly hard to imagine how that would work, probably a lot more pancakes and a lot less syrup, as it were, then the items we have imply.

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                • trouso says:

                  Exactly. I’m sure all those things happened on the show at some time or other but you probably had to sit through 4 years of the other rubbish to catch them.

                  Incidentally, there was another show called ‘Don’t Ask Me’ in the late ’70s that I did see first hand – presented by Professor Magnus Pyke. It was a popular science show with a studio audience. Various members of the audience, female and male (and guests) got involved in various stunts, wearing the clothes they arrived in, which set out to demonstrate some scientific principle or other (to avoid Magnus having to explain, you see) and frequently involved them getting very wet, and messy (but more often didn’t, of course!). Things like getting into tanks of water to see how sound is distorted (a man in that case). One time, a woman – who seemed to find it hilarious – was gradually soaked by an over head bucket of water while they measured her reactions with a skin resistance tester. Which perhaps demonstrates how this messy thing was the zeitgeist and provided a lasting memory.

                  On disappointment. In a later, similar series (1980s with Dr Rob Buckman), two women friends were pitted against each other in some ‘game’ beneath an 8 gallon vat of custard. I was all built up for witnessing a mammoth gunging. The loser was supposed to get the lot over them but what actually happened was it hit some of her hair and part of her shoulder and the rest just went all over the floor nearby. They still made an immense fuss about it though. Nothing like that ever happened again, but I sat through two more series just in case,

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                  • yuck53 says:

                    Oh dear, is there the evidence. That’s probably worth seeing once just so we can all see how bad that was. I expect some people will probably think it’s amazing because they’ll have a “near miss” fetish or something.
                    As for Junkin’ you may well be right except the things under discussion were are more likely to be near the beginning than the end because they aren’t likely to take their information from later episodes, unless of course that’s all they happen to have.

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  6. I’ll try and have the final list up later. Sadly, I don’t think I can add Junkin to it. :/

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